Wednesday, June 28, 2006

And The Ann Coulter Jerk of the Week Award Goes To...

Well we are back from vacation! Trophy Wife and I spent a few days in MD. and we also took a bus trip to Atlantic City... MD was fun.. I have a few cousins living there. and even better, it gave me a chance to see all 11 of my 1st cousins from my mother's side in a 2 wk period. As far as I can recall, the last time all 12 of us were at the same place at the same time was at my cousins wedding way back in the early 70s.. we came pretty close in the late 90s when all except 1 showed up at another wedding.. and 10 of the 12 of us were at my wedding in Sept. of '04.

MD was sweltering... so we didn’t do too much outside. We went to the Inner Harbor which coincided with the Baptist’s huge convention. This Week in Baseball also was in Baltimore last wk too… How about that? We even saw some Amish people on vacation! I have never ever ever gone somewhere and seen Amish people on vacation.. unless it was that Rumspringa or Ooshpritzin or whatever its called.. that time when they go through their wild phase and determine if Amish is a life for them. They didn’t seem to be shpritzing though since they were wearing their regular Jebediah Butter Churning Outfits.

We had lunch at the Cheesecake Factory.. at around the same time the Baptists had their break. I actually found a lost ID badge near the water and thought about sneaking into their afternoon session to see what was going on there... Some of the Baptists were germaphobes too. The people at the next table ordered a glass of steaming hot water... and proceeded to soak their silverware in it before they ate from them. Too bad we left before the food came.... who knows what they did to the plate before they ate from it??

AC was fun too... Trophy Wife and I took the bus from Edison for about 26 bucks.. then they give you back 20 bucks which is directly deposited in the Showboat buffet’s cash register!! Nothing beats that buffet... and after about an hour of gastronomic delights, and a little tummy ache, we meandered off to the rest of the casino.. Trophy Wife likes to play the slots... and I strolled along the boardwalk heading to the Big Dollar Store, but it started raining so instead I went to play video poker at the Taj Mahal. They have a 5 card draw game, that actually tells you in advance what the sixth card is going to be when you take extra cards!! Now I know what its like for Kreskin to play poker! Trophy Wife actually discovered the Match Game slot machine which has nothing to do with Match Game but they use slot characters for Gene Rayburn, Brett Somers and Charles Nelson Reilly and they occassionally have a gimmick where you can play the big money super match. Lame-o.

Right outside the door near the Match Game, the casino had a Family Feud show where they charge 25 bucks to get in. I’ve heard of the Price is Right road show.. but frankly who the heck would pay money to see a game show that you can watch for free on any given day featuring any of the 4 different hosts?? I’m a huge Match Game fan and frankly I wouldn’t pay to see a casino Match Game if Gene Rayburn came back from the dead and 70’s Elaine Joyce and 70’s JoAnne Pflug paraded nude around the studio while BLANK-ing Richard Dawson. (Please insert your Bob Crane wisecracks here!) I actually snuck in the back and watched some Family Feud for a little bit, but when I went to retrieve Trophy Wife to join me, she misunderstood the concept of “quietly sneaking in” and she went waltzing in like a model on the catwalk.. right past the "security" who promptly offered to show us the door unless we wanted to part with 50 bucks... But since we already had made a nice donation to the slots... we decided to find something else to do.


I also took some time to catch up with the news last week. A few items caught my attention which leads to today’s awarding of the Ann Coulter Jerk of the Week Award. Here are the nominees.

THE PERSON WHO LEAKED OUT THE RUSH LIMBAUGH VIAGRA STORY - Imagine that.. ol rush gets detained for 3 hours at palm beach airport after he gets caught by customs official with a bottle of prescription viagra written out to somebody else! Not the best thing for a recovering prescription drug addict to get caught with... Shame on those people at the airport for releasing that info that would embarrass ol' Rush... hee hee... actually its kind of funny... I can only imagine how he and his way too beautiful girlfriend Daryn Kagan discovered that little rush couldn’t stand at attention... What kind of tricks did she resort to before he gave up and decided to go for the little pill?? One can only imagine her sashaying around the house wearing her "I love Bush" thong to see if they could prevent Rush from sagging as poorly as Bush's popularity rating. By the way this info was only released because Rush is famous.. If he was still toiling away at the Kansas City Royals PR office writing press releases about Matt Stairs clutch game winning 2 run homer helping the Royals improve to an exciting 26-50, none of this would have ever received an iota of media attention.


PRESIDENT BUSH - A perennial contender... I read a review of an HBO Real Sports about a story involving a huge outbreak of asthma in Pittsburgh among youngsters living there. I’m starting to watch more of the network especially that Life with Louie show... Imagine.. a crazy Kramer-esque neighbor showers in Louie's apt and parades around flashing his shmeckle! That’s wackier than my Match Game casino show. What other network could show such craziness? Anyway, it turns out there is a coal burning plant in Pittsburgh that is belching out some dangerous chemicals, an apparent no no according to EPA requirements and a new law called New Source Review. Well.. the big shots at these aforementioned plants also donated some huge amounts of shekels to President Bush and the Republicans and therefore some of these environmental requirements were subsequently waived. Former NJ Governor Christie Whitman who was the EPA director during the early dark days of this horrific Bush administration admits that rules were changed around at the expense of these poor little kids. On the show she complains that when she tried to enforce New Source Review at these plants. Bush quickly had her oversight over power plants taken away from her. The story was reported by Jon Frankel who used to be the weekend sports reporter on Channel 4 in the pre Bruce Beck days.

THE RELATIVES WHO WANTED THE MAN DECLARED DEAD -- A man disappeared during a sailing trip last September when Hurricane Rita hit the Gulf of Mexico.. Some of his relatives wanted him declared dead even though traditionally in a case like this, you need to wait 5 years. The law was amended after the tragic events of 9-11 when it became painfully obvious that day that the ”missing” people in the towers who were unaccounted for had obviously died. The waiting period was waived so the widows (including those so scorned by Ann Coulter) could collect on their insurance premiums.

The relatives bastardized the intent of the 9-11 law by trying to get a declaration that he was dead. They realized that if they declared him dead.. the widow's marriage to him would not hit the magical 5 year mark. According to the pre-nup, if the marriage lasted less than 5 years,... the wife would get only about 125k from the hubby's multi million dollar estate... They actually went to court to declare him legally dead so they could toss her out on the street and enjoy his shekels... I thought the five year rule was for divorce... not for widows.. but the Supreme Court heard the challenge made by Anna Nicole Smith's octonogenerian's late husband's son after he died a year or so after he married her.. the son by the way just dropped dead last week.. Incidentally the judge shot down the relatives' request to declare him dead.. And the man who died in the water… made his millions by bottling water!

THE TITLE SCAMMER - This one takes the cake. Allow me to introduce you to Fermin Galvez who was just convicted in an outrageous scam this past Friday. Fermin decided to be a stud and hooked up with a married woman. Unfortunately, the woman got sick and lapsed into a coma. Ol’ Fermin the stud got another girlfriend to pose as the coma woman and the impostor signed the title over so it appeared that Fermin and the coma woman were now the owners.

He then proceeded to sell the home to an unwitting couple who by some bizarre stroke of good luck had no money to put down, and managed to take out a huge mortgage with no money down... (trust me,. the rate on the 2nd loan must have been astronomical!) Why were they lucky to put no money down? 3 weeks after the closing, the first time buyers show up to start moving their stuff into the new home... and not only was Fermin still living there.. but he refused to let them in. The cops were called and the seller showed them a 2nd forged title showing that he still owned the house!! Amazingly the cops told the buyers to leave the premises! Ultimately the rat was caught when the family of the woman in the coma showed the courts medical proof that the woman was comatose the day “she“ signed the title over to Fermin.

They’re still trying to sort this mess out.. But the “buyers” will probably be on the hook for their mortgage payments until this is straightened out.. And since this will take months to sort out.. once they are late on their mortgage payments, their credit will take a huge hit and adversely affect their chances to buy a house that they will be allowed to live in. And as for the coma woman’s husband, legally he will ultimately be awarded the home, since by law a spouse is always on the title. …(I’m surprised this wasn’t caught during the first forged title…) The big financial loser will be the mortgage company that ends up losing the money that Galvez stole from them… But… the biggest loser is Fermin Galvez.. this weeks winner of the Ann Coulter Jerk of the Week Award!

43 comments:

Blank Pump said...

I wouldn’t pay to see a casino Match Game if Gene Rayburn came back from the dead and 70’s Elaine Joyce and 70’s JoAnne Pflug paraded nude around the studio while BLANK-ing Richard Dawson.

Hmm.... "shaving"?

(I'd ordinarily suggest something R-rated, but young children in the Internet audience could be reading this, you know.)

Nate said...

BLANK pump? Hmmmm... How about this answer to BLANK pump?

Rush Limbaugh had his viagra taken away so he had to use a shmenis...pump!

(Podcast fans will appreciate the reference to Mr. Nagel who opened a Bagel store. We wondered what he would have sold if his name was Shmenispump!)

eskay said...

So, explain to me why the two kids whose dad died are jerks again. I don't really get why you're mad at them.

Nate said...

Uh.. they used a loophole in the law that was created for 9-11 survivors to screw their dads wife out of millions of dollars.

Nate said...

Here is one last edited comment about this issue that was posted on another site...


"I know you bloggers like to run on your "stream of consciousness" but do you know the Ginsbergs? If you don't know the people and/or circumstances surrounding a family situation keep your mouth shut. At the end of the day what did your comments about the Ginsbergs accomplish or prove? Its pretty typical to see another liberal douche chime in with his two cents and offer nothing of value. So my question to you is what value do your comments have to anyone?"


Just so you know to the smart alecks who keep sending comments that say some very nasty things about this poor widow... the rule here is that all the comments are screened first. Obviously I just wont post the stuff that is unnecessary, and i dont see what the point is to attack this woman..

Oh I dont know the family, but I know the purpose of a pre-nup and death declarations for insurance purposes. Nuthin' else will be posted here... consider the issue closed and find a blog that doesnt screen the comments.

eskay said...

So isn't it possible that the widow is not deserving of the bulk of the man's estate? I mean, every situation is different and you can't really assume that this lady was a model wife and everything was hunky dory in their marriage without really knowing intimate facts about the case?

Nate said...

AND as for Chris.. if you want to repost your last comment and edit out the curse words...(this is not George Bush talking to Tony Blair), I will post your comments.. but the issue is not to blast the sons.. I feel bad for anyone who loses a parent.. but the law states that he must be missing for a certain amount of time before he is declared dead.

And legally speaking to impose an exception that was created for the widows from 9-11 does not seem like the right thing to do for a woman who signed a pre-nup that would go into effect if the couple got a divorce. Again, legally speaking check out the case with Anna Nicole Smith before the Supreme Court.

If you guys wanna keep it clean, Ill post your comments and Ill even invite you on my podcast.. but I will not tolerate any off color language in the comments section. Are we on the same page here?

Anonymous said...

yea we're on the same page, maybe you should do some investigative work before assuming that these kids are jerks, and the wife deserves the estate. Screening comments is your liberty, but what is a blog without balance.

MadeInMilwaukee...Since79' said...

It seems like you have a personal axe to grind with this gentleman's family. While this is a blog site, you should gather more facts before presenting such a one-sided point of view.

iLL Change said...

come on, dog. validate some comments here and man up, and maybe there will be an intelligent conversation with rational thinking and valid points. showing one side of the story and not recognizing any other opinions? make a WEBSITE if that's what you want. but a BLOG is for people to discuss their opinions on different issues. if you wanna keep denying comments made by people who actually know the full spectrum of the story, then i think you need to re-evaluate what the purpose of having a comments section is, or even a blog for that matter. we can all handle this like adults and have a convo with reasonable dealings, or you can continue to play games and hide behind your moderation priveleges? you gonna man up or what?

chris said...

nate i didnt even realize i was cursing ( im sure you got some crazy hate from others but i was trying my hardest to be rational with you but you cant understand ive been trembling with anger all day after i read what you said )
im trying to be rational but sometimes i might slip and curse but i dont even think i did.


nancy meet greg ginsberg about @ 3-4 years ago she is wife number 4, he was out on a boat in the middle of hurricane rita they found his boat a week or 2 later capsized 250 miles off the coast and coast guard wouldnt even go in the water cause of how many sharks there were ( he was seen going out on the boat last time he was seen alive by his neighbors ) what more do you need to hear to believe he is dead. just like you knew the people in the world trade center were dead you know he is dead thats why the law should still apply


she intially wanted him declared dead immediately until her lawyer told her about how she can milk the account for much more if he is still said to be alive and basically in 5 years there will be nothing left for the sons now explain to me why you think that wife # 4 who has only known him for a couple years should get all the money over his own sons???


again i apoligize for any profanity and i may have sent some viciousness at you some people i know and are friends with might of coincendtailly done the same but you cant imagine the pain it would cause these 2 kids if they were to see you called them the jerks of the week so you have to excuse our anger i have never in my life felt so personally disrepected and the shits not even about me but if you know the family and you know nancy you would know you have the stroy 100 % backwards and i feel quite confident if you were in my shoes you would be doing exactly what im doing and thats defending some of my best friends from being shown in the completely wrong light, so again please accept my apology and please post this and even let me get into a rational discussion with you about this cause im sorry but i cant stand here and do nothing why to of the nicest kids and my good friends get put into a jerk of the week category cause their dad died and wife number 4 is trying to keep the money from them.

so please post this and if i cursed in here just edit it i really didnt mean to or attempt i just cant explain my anger and rage when i read this article the shit hurt me in my heart knowing my good friends were being painted like this that is something you have to respect.


and again i apoligize for any cursing or threats that were made ( im not sure of everyone who came at you and what everyone said but you have to understand just how serious of an issue this is to us and the sons so please post this discuss rationally if you want but atleast post this one


also every comment i sent you said chris on it so you can hold me responsible for any of those and i know eskay too but he is just looking out for me, the rest i have no control over what they say just let the world here what i said here and now

CHRIS said...

THANK YOU NATE FOR FINALLY ALLOWING MY COMMENTS TO BE HEARD ITS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THIS STORY GETS STRAIGHTENED OUT AND THE 2 GINSBERG BROTHERS DONT EVER HEAR ABOUT THIS ARTICLE. I HAVE HAD AN INCREDIBLY STRESSFUL DAY BECAUSE OF THIS ARTICLE ( IVE BEEN TREMBLING AND SHAKING ALL DAY I WAS SO MAD ) AND IM LEAVING WORK NOW BUT ILL BE BACK LATER AND THANKS FOR THE LOVE SHOWN BY EVERYONE HOLDING IT DOWN, AND THANK YOU NATE FOR LETTING THE REAL SIDE OF THE STROY COME OUT, HOWEVER THE FACT IS SHE SHOULD BE THE ONE UP FOR THE AWARD NOT THEM BUT WHATEVER WHATEVER WHATEVER
AND AGAIN

KANYE I AM SAYING SHES A GOLD DIGGER

iLL Change said...

Nate, if you want to start this convo at any time, we can get it poppin'. if you want to define this site as a blog instead of FoxNews.com, then we can get to hearing both sides of the story whenever. if we're on the same page, let's man up and break out the ether.

Nate said...

Ok now that we are all talking civilly....

The purpose of waiting a period of time before declaring someone dead is to avoid insurance fraud. There have been cases where people have faked their own death to collect on insurance. Im not even implying that that is case here... but that is why insurance companies make people wait.

Obviously the 9-11 victims didnt fake their deaths so that statute was waived.

If he had lived, and the marriage had hit the five year mark... she would have gotten her percentage. The fact that he died and there is no body obviously opens up a lot of legal and ethical questions.

I got this info from the Star Ledger and I left out some of the details that actually makes her look like even more of a victim. Nonetheless, I am sympathetic that they lost their dad.. but this is a very sticky legal issue and when you look at how the numbers add up, it does look like the woman was being screwed.

And if Im not mistaken, if the marriage exceeded the five year mark... the sons were still going to inherit a substantial sum of money!

More comments are coming...

Sour D. said...

I personally think that you are way off Nate. For children to try to secure their fathers legacy to be seen as malicious or greedy is just disgusting. The man is on his 4th wife and last i remember 4th time isn't a charm. They only had a couple years of marriage under their belt and as far as i'm concerened, $125k would have been more than enough. They utilized a law that would protect their fathers assets. Had the wife made it to the 5 year mark and didn't have every friend of the family coming here to bash her character, she may have deserved half the estate. For you to call these people jerks shows your disregard to anyone affected by the situation. I would also like to know the other facts from the star ledger that you said make it seem like she got beat out of what she deserved.

Nate said...

Lets address part of that last post...

"The man is on his 4th wife and last i remember 4th time isn't a charm. They only had a couple years of marriage under their belt and as far as i'm concerened, $125k would have been more than enough. They utilized a law that would protect their fathers assets. Had the wife made it to the 5 year mark and didn't have every friend of the family coming here to bash her character, she may have deserved half the estate."

And why exactly is it that "every friend of the family" is coming here to bash her character?

Gabe said...

pobably cause these friends of the family know her better than whoever interviewed her in the Star Ledger...

Nate said...

Ok guys lets ease it up on the widow.. this blog is not here to attack this woman.

iLL Change said...

so Nate, lemme get this str8 - you think that the man's 4th wife, who is trying to get all of his estate, has better intentions than HIS OWN young kids? put yourself in their shoes to better understand the situation. you would rather have your wife take all of your money and leave your kids to fend for themselves? you're gonna take the wife's words over the man's flesh and blood children? Chris PERSONALLY KNOWS these kids, and he is saying that the wife is only after the money. i trust Chris's word, because he knows what the kids go thru, and if they are sitting in court watching their step-mom try to take all of their father's money, and then tell Chris about what the've seen in the court, i think Chris has a better understanding of the whole thing. you are basing your points off of 3rd-party sources that may or may not convey the full spectrum of this case. Chris is a friend of the family, and i think that gives his comments more weight in the matter of the wife's intentions.

MadeInMilwaukee...Since79' said...

Explain to me how a women should be entitled to the entire estate when they have been married only 3 or 4 years? The fact that she is unwilling to just split the estate lets you know that she is only after one thing. Why drain the bank accounts when she could reach an agreemant for the sake of the children envoled and out of respect for her dead husband?

Nate said...

Maybe we should move this to the Dr Phil blog.. Again, if Im not mistaken, I dont know what exactly the woman did wrong.. but you guys have some issue with her. All she did was hire a lawyer when the sons tried to declare him dead. What does the actual will say? And no matter how you guys slice it.. dont you think it's wrong that you are totally ganging up on this lady? Do you really know what their marriage was like? And were the sons gonna be paupers had the marriage lasted five years?

I will start knocking out these comments if they attack this woman..so please use your discretion, and allow time for comments to be posted because I can't be glued to this blog 24/7.

Thanks fellas.

CHRIS said...

OK I WAS GONNA LEAVE IT ALONE BUT IM GONNA ADDRESS THIS AND K.I.M. ( DONT WORRY THATS KEEP IT MOVING NOT ANYTYPE OF CURSE )


Do you really know what their marriage was like? And were the sons gonna be paupers had the marriage lasted five years?



YES I REALLY DO I HAVE WITNESSED THE COLD HEARTEDNESS WITH MY OWN EYES EVERYONE WHO KNOWS HER FEELS THE SAME WAY SHE. I HAVE HEARD ALL THE STORIES TRUST ME IM NOT MAKING ANY OF THIS UP AND I COULD UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD BE WEARY OF BLASTING A WIDOW BUT YOU SEEMED TO HAVE KNOW PROBLEM WITH PUTTING THE 2 KIDS WHO LOST THEIR FATHER AS NOMINEES FOR JERK OF THE WEEK, WHEN THEY ARE 2 OF THE NICEST HONEST DO ANYTHING FOR YOU STAND-UP INDIVUALS I KNOW AND THEY CAN BE NOMINATED FOR JERK OF THE WEEK BUT I CANT DISREPECT THE WOMEN WHO KNEW HIM FOR 5 YEARS MAX AND TRUST ME WAS IN IT FOR THE MONEY ITS NO SECRET.


IM SORRY I THINK BELIEVE THE SONS SHOULD ALWAYS COME FIRST REGARDLESS BUT ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY KNEW HIM THEIR WHOLE LIFE AND SHE ONLY KNEW HIM WELL AFTER HE WAS CRAZY PAID AND FOR O ABOUT 4-5 YEARS. YOU GOT A TWISTED VIEW IF ITS OK TO BLAST THE SONS BUT NOT THE GOLDDIGGING WIFE


THATS IT IM OUT

iLL Change said...

Nate can we please stop playing these little girl games tho? i didn't say anything inappropriate (ie no cusses), nor did i attack the wife. i am simply debating your opinions, and i did it with intelligence and respect. it's a shame that those same qualities can't be returned towards me.

Matt B. said...

Nate I appreciate you posting the comments. I respect the fact that you read and posted the comments although they seemed to attack you for your lack of knowledge. Thank you for letting both sides of the story be told. By the way, my mother was wife number 2.

Nate said...

Is there anything left to say on this issue?

You guys gotta chill on this woman.. Looking back now, one comment trivialized her dedication to him because she was HIS 4th wife! Why does that make her less of a wife?

Nonetheless, I think everyones points are well taken. Granted it was not nice to pick on the relatives who filed the court papers but some of the screened out comments about this woman were downright malicious.

iLL Change said...

sorry Chris, i tried to help you out and i made a ill post, but Nate wont moderate it because it was not to his liking (or he disagreed with it.) stay up tho, i feel for you. it really is a shame he has to play these games and he cant convey two sides of a story and let everybody post their opinions. he just needs to learn that with becoming a blogger, you have to be willing to accept criticism and opinions that conflict with your own. im gonna keep tryin' tho Chris.

Anonymous said...

Lets just clarify something, she is not wife number 4. She is number 3. I know this because I am wife number 2 and she was our bank teller. Gregg left alot of emotionally battered lives and so the friends who post on your site are sensitive to protecting their own and need to place blame. It is done out of loyalty to kids who have had to bear their personal pain splashed on the newspapers. Including personal details about their fathers life that would they would have prefered to remain private. I played my own role in their pain when I married their father and if in some way I could erase that I would. Instead I will gently explain that all that is written here is out of their friends love of them. As far as wife number 3. Thank God I am a spiritual person and leave that in someone elses Hands.

Nate said...

Welcome to the blog wife2. I appreciate your comments; I will agree that those guys are lucky to have friends who will spend all this time posting passionate comments defending them.

Anonymous said...

nate just realize this


" actions have reactions/ don't be quick to judge / sometimes you don't know the hardships people don't speak of / so its best to sit back and observe with couth/ for we all must meet our moment of truth " - guru


yeah I got a bit emotional on the subject and I was talking to someone who said wife # 4 and I didn't even think but it still doesn't change anything about her or the situation.


Anonymous - thank you for finding this helping us find this so we could so these kids deserved better than this. I hope everything is well with you. I'm gonna see your son this weekend ( as long as he doesn't call last minute ) and I thank him as well for this.


chris

Anonymous said...

dying makes things difficult.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe that you would classify 2 people as idiots just because they want to declare their father as dead. I imagine you're the know-it-all, and if you were in a similar situation, you'd do it differently, huh? I'm a wife, and if it were me, if my husband died the way that man died, I'd split the money with my step-children...plain and simple. I'd help them do what they can to declare their father dead, and go from there...That's what loving wives and step-mothers do.....gold-diggers and bitches take all the money and run...

Matt B said...

Nate I appreciate you posting the comments. I respect the fact that you read and posted the comments although they seemed to attack you for your lack of knowledge. Thank you for letting both sides of the story be told. By the way, my mother was wife number 2.

Nate said...

I sure dont mind people calling me ignorant.. especially about this case which when the column was written consisted of my reading one newspaper article.

I dug up that aforementioned article y'day (thanks to my not taking the old newspapers to recycling!) As for the "split"... the article says the will gives the wife 1/3rd of 7.5 million... 2.5M according to the will. But by declaring him dead before the five years, the family lawyer argued that she should get 125,000 and the rest of the family get 7.375M. She also gets the house which is the state law in NJ.

Here are the ground rules for today for anyone who wants to post comments. I will check the blog sporadically for comments since I'm working, so dont grumble that your comments are not being posted. I will get to them.

Remember the rules.. keep the language clean and no nasty comments about the wife.

chris said...

yeessssiiiiiir matt tell your mom again i said thanks for letting us straighten the story out and yeah i meant that jab straight at you homie im prepping for the call @ 5:00 on sunday like whatsup man im leaving jerz.




no nasty comments for the widow fine but i mean how bout atleast an apology for naming these 2 innocent kids JERKS OF THE WEEK , see you could of just reported on this but you took direct shots at these kids like they were in the wrong, their dad is dead and you nominate them as JERKS OF THE WEEK how nice and considerate of you, hey if your dad was out on a boat in the middle of a hurricane and they found his boat cap-sized later with sharks everywhere wouldnt you be convinced your dad is dead, thats the type of thing the 9/11 law was made for, just cause it wasnt a terriost attack doesnt mean that he is alive, 250 miles out in the ocean in the middle of a hurricane you got about the same chance of survivng as the people in those towers ( and i lost a cousin in the towers im am by no means trivializing the towers ) but someone could of walked out the buildings right before the the planes hit and then decided to take advantage of it and claim to be dead as well, so you saying they were trying to use a loophole is ridiculous when all they are really trying to do is bring closure to their dad's death


peace

Nate said...

In reality when I wrote the column, the intent was to point out that the family members had filed the suit and it was not to only single out the sons.

Now as for intent.. we have a situation in Piscatway where a farm owned by the Halper family was taken over by Piscataway through eminent domain. The big shots in Piscataway claim they thought the Halpers would sell the farm to developers so they took it away from them. Now was their intent to really preserve it as Open Space?... Or is that land going to be a nice little strip mall and/or condo complex once a developer comes along and offers the town a huge sum of money. That "intent" is questionable.

As for the "intent" of this family, again I dont know them and you do, so obviously you have insight that I dont have. But... based on that one Star Ledger article, winning the suit would shift 2.375 million from the widow to the family.. with the family already getting an additional 5 million. Anyone reading that article would question if the "intent" was for closure or for financial gain.

CHRIS said...

Nate said...
In reality when I wrote the column, the intent was to point out that the family members had filed the suit and it was not to only single out the sons.


YOU NOMINATED THEM AS JERKS OF THE WEEK HOW IS THAT NOT SINGLE OUT THE SONS? YOU SAID THEY WANTED HER THROWN OUT ON THE STREETS WITH NOTHING, YOU SAID THEY BASTERIZED THE 9/11 LAW IM SORRY YOU DID MORE THAN SINGLE TEM OUT YOU FLAT OUT ATTACKED THEM, I CAN UNDERSTAND YOU NOT WANTING THE CURSES BUT YOU WERE WAY OFF BASE AND OUT OF LINE SO YOUR GONNA GET HEATED HEARTFELT RESPONSES

Nate said...

You do make some valid points Chris.. but even if the Ann Coulter Jerk of the Week Award went to "the relatives" instead of "the sons", you still would have been just as angry.

And again when it comes to "intent", closure is an odd term to use in this context. There is no such thing as closure when you lose a parent...Once the finances are addressed... its just one less thing to deal with.. but there is no "closure"! I've spoken to older people whose parents died 50 years ago and there isn't "closure".

And when there is a substantial amount of money involved, it is understandable that a lot of people would question the "intent".

CHRIS said...

WHEN THIS IS GETTING DRAGGED OUT THROUGH THE PAPERS WEEKLY AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO HAVE NEVER MEET ANYONE FROM EITHER SIDE OF THIS FAMILY NOMINATEING THEM FOR JERK OF THE WEEK CANT DO ANYTHING BUT EXTEND AND ADD TO THE PAIN AND SUFFERING THE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY FACING WITH, AND I HAVE LOST MANY FRIENDS ( IM ONLY 25 LOST MANY FRIENDS MY AGE AND YOUNGER ) AND THERE IS A CLOSURE THAT COMES WITH THERE DEATH YEAH ITS NEVER FULLY CLOSED BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN IT SHOULD BE OPEN FOR ANYONE AND EVERYONE TO SEE AND FEEL THEY CAN COMMENT ON, THERES WAY MUCH MORE TO THIS STORY THAN YOU COULD EVEN BEGIN TO FATHOM SO LIKE I SAID YOU NEVER SHOULD OF OPENED YOUR MOUTH AND TYPED THE WORDS YOU DID. AND YEAH YOUR RIGHT NO MATTER WHAT I WOULD OF BEEN PISSED ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT AINT NOE OF YOUR BUISNESS I DONT CARE ABOUT LEGAL PRECIDENTS THE FACT THAT YOU SAID THEY WERE TRYING TO THROW HER OUT ON THE STREETS AND BASTERIZED YOU MADE THEM SOUND LIKE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH WHEN AGAIN YOUR BASHING THE WRONG SIDE AND DONT MENTION ANY OF HER GREED

Nate said...

Now remind me of how she is greedy? A widow hires a lawyer because his relatives want to have her husband declared dead before the marriage hits 5 years knowing full well that if she doesn't defend herself she stands to lose 3.75 million dollars that is left to her in her will.

And you claim to be a friend of the stepsons and you call HER greedy? What was she supposed to do? Sit back and not defend herself. Hmmm.. you guys are hitting this blog and any other that write about this issue with these nasty vicious cheap shots on her character, while she mourns the tragic death of her husband.

And all she did was try to defend herself. How the heck is that greedy? How many times did you call her to offer her condolences Chris?

I dont care said...

I think he was saying she's greedy because she is currently using the face that he's still "alive" to draining the bank accounts & putting everything in her name so therefore when the 5 year mark reaches there will be no money to seperate among the children because at that point it will no loger belong to the father and they arent here children have no claim to what she "owns". So them going to court is a means to stop this from taking place. Hopefully this man put his kids some money aside in a trust. Sadly a lot of golddiggin women put their own needs before having some morals.

I agree it's a little tricky giving that there is a prenup. I dont really understand how that plays into this. Whether he died of a heart attack instead of in a hurricane shouldnt it still be up to the will and whatever wishes he had for his money in that and not in the prenup. Does his will magically change because they were married longer? I would think so & that once someone is dead, the pre nup doesnt even matter because it would be invalid considering one party isnt around to fullfill or not fullfill the terms. So y not just declare him dead & divide the money according to his will now, rather than playing games and wasting time and money now.

Whether the kids, the stepmom or whoever is in the wrong. I do think it was a little tacky to call the kids jerks. Considering there isn't enough information to know the full story. I'm doubt this was an elaborate scheme to fake his own death and get his wife and kids in a heated debet over his estate. Most of the time ppl fake their deaths in insurance schemes because they are having money trouble, i dont think that the case right here. The man probably is dead, i mean it wasnt like he randomly went missing, he died in a natural disaster unless he's BFF with God, dont think he could really plan that one. I dont see the problem with using that 9/11 in cases where people go missing in things like bombings, earthquakes, hurricanes, other natural disasters. Johnny went hiking and never came home, i think we can wait 5 years on that one.

If the step mom really is trying to get all the money, I'm sure there is some legal way that the kids can get a temp. freeze on his assets.

Anonymous said...

nate - I never had to offer my condoluences to her I knew her personally and saw the cold heartendness with my own eyes I saw the way she broke apart and seperated family. I saw the malicous acts of greed and selfishness you again couldn't even begin to fathom. she was in it for the money only knew him for not near the amount of time as the sons. I offer my condolences to his sons everyday when I see them they are the ones who lost someone not just money.





also you need more research cause before any of this went to court she could of walked away with 3-4 mill and half of the the houses and cars but she switched her mind and decided she all of a sudden she didn't want him declared dead when she found out she could get a whole lot more by dragging this out. you know greg and his sons bought a house together to fix up and sell so he could help his sons make money and since it is still in greg's name nancy is trying to claim it as hers screwing the sons out of the last 2 years of hard work they personally put into it. its things like this that make me call her greedy. things like this you don't know of. things like this that makes the friends of the family feel this way about her. if you need more examples I got you just let me know.




chris

Anonymous said...

I am a very close friend of the 3rd wife and am in shock at these comments that were made about her. As far as I am concerned her character has been slandered. But I would expect nothing less from his kids or there friends. i have one last thing to say...she personally will take care of these comments legally. And what goes around comes around. After 5 years of college.KEVIN..get a job!!!!!!!

Nate said...

I see we are starting to get posts on this column again.. so once again here are the rules:

1. No "anonymous" posts.
2. Keep the nastiness down.

I'm trying to maintain some class here. If anyone has an issue with that, post a comment here and it will be forwarded to my email account, and I will address you directly.