tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18889742.post115315611782366113..comments2023-05-05T03:58:50.647-04:00Comments on Nate's World of Words - Written, Spoken, and Otherwise: DAS Goes Liberal... What Went Wrong? Part 1 of our Podcast ChatNatehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18023116533247424228noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18889742.post-1153431288496748042006-07-20T17:34:00.000-04:002006-07-20T17:34:00.000-04:00If they are assisting people living in Israel of c...If they are assisting people living in Israel of committing terror acts its treason in my book... just like the Al Quaedas who were hiding out in Afghanastan after 9-11. I just want to see my soldiers back. Im sure if the terrorists return them, the bombings will stop.<BR/><BR/>And despite his comments on HIS blog, Das came off very prepared and polished on the podcast.. (plus I edited a few things too.. ) Part II should be appearing here on Friday afternoon so stay tuned!Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18023116533247424228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18889742.post-1153427441643010602006-07-20T16:30:00.000-04:002006-07-20T16:30:00.000-04:00I guess I was being a bit much when I made the cap...I guess I was being a bit much when I made the capture two of their soldiers argument (although I think it might be an interesting bit of strategy) -- but in your child molester analogy, the analogy to what Israel is doing is not to go all SWAT on the houses the holding the hostages, but to start bombing the neighborhood's key roads until the local neighborhood watch is able to uproot the child molestors who take hostages. <BR/><BR/>I would be fine (albeit this makes me somewhat of a chickenhawk as I would likely not volunteer for such dangerous duty) if Israel figured out where the hostages were being kept, went in <I>on the ground</I> and siezed them back -- <I>that</I> would actually show Hezbollah Israel means business and will not be cowed by terrorism. But responding disproportionately and counter-productively to the actual goal (getting the soldiers back or even breaking the hold of Hezbollah) in an air-strike based strategy (which is seen by many in the Arab world as Israel hiding behind superior technology) only sends the message that Israel is either just out to destroy Lebanon or is so terrorized by Hezbollah that they've lost their senses.<BR/><BR/>And as to the issue of treason -- I don't think the terrorists can be guilty of treason against Israel unless they are Israeli citizens or residents or at least visiting Israel in some way shape or form for an extended period: doesn't treason imply that you've sold out <I>your</I> county (hosting you or of which you are a citizen or resident)? The terrorists are certainly guilty of various crimes, but I don't think treason against Israel is among them -- since Israel wasn't hosting them nor were they residing there.<BR/><BR/>And if the terrorists are guilty of a <I>capital crime</I> then, under Jewish ethical codes, we cannot assassinate them: according to Pirke Avos, if a person commits a capital crime and the crime is not adjucated in a halachically proper court, God will set an aveirah upon the land of Israel. Now if you assassinate someone, you cannot try them in a court of law, can you? Therefore, according to Jewish tradition, all of these targetted assassinations of people who are, no doubt, guilty of capital crimes, risk an aveirah being set upon the land of Israel. Why would people who claim to be committed Jews and committed to the land of Israel do something that Jewish tradition tells us will bring an aveirah to the Land?alberichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03852752646926946626noreply@blogger.com